Comments on: Another Mac-styled update for Ubuntu – Window buttons to the left! http://geek.co.il/wp/2010/03/07/another-mac-styled-update-for-ubuntu-window-buttons-to-the-left Thoughts about the universe in general Tue, 22 May 2012 20:29:57 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4-alpha-19978 By: Oded http://geek.co.il/wp/2010/03/07/another-mac-styled-update-for-ubuntu-window-buttons-to-the-left/comment-page-1#comment-222451 Oded Sat, 22 May 2010 12:51:48 +0000 http://geek.co.il/wp/?p=1432#comment-222451 It would be interesting to see if you can use Ubuntu Tweak (linked above) to set up your buttons without a spacer and see if it works well, and if so - what does Ubuntu Tweak sets the button_layout gconf entry to. It would be interesting to see if you can use Ubuntu Tweak (linked above) to set up your buttons without a spacer and see if it works well, and if so – what does Ubuntu Tweak sets the button_layout gconf entry to.

]]> By: Tom http://geek.co.il/wp/2010/03/07/another-mac-styled-update-for-ubuntu-window-buttons-to-the-left/comment-page-1#comment-222413 Tom Fri, 21 May 2010 18:49:47 +0000 http://geek.co.il/wp/?p=1432#comment-222413 nope nope

]]> By: Oded http://geek.co.il/wp/2010/03/07/another-mac-styled-update-for-ubuntu-window-buttons-to-the-left/comment-page-1#comment-222399 Oded Fri, 21 May 2010 12:49:41 +0000 http://geek.co.il/wp/?p=1432#comment-222399 Interesting. I have a similar setup and I didn't need the extra spacer. Have you tried to play with Ubuntu Tweak's button layout utility? Interesting. I have a similar setup and I didn’t need the extra spacer. Have you tried to play with Ubuntu Tweak’s button layout utility?

]]> By: Tom http://geek.co.il/wp/2010/03/07/another-mac-styled-update-for-ubuntu-window-buttons-to-the-left/comment-page-1#comment-222366 Tom Thu, 20 May 2010 16:11:23 +0000 http://geek.co.il/wp/?p=1432#comment-222366 1024x768 on laptop, 1280x1024 (I think) on secondary screen 1024×768 on laptop, 1280×1024 (I think) on secondary screen

]]> By: Oded http://geek.co.il/wp/2010/03/07/another-mac-styled-update-for-ubuntu-window-buttons-to-the-left/comment-page-1#comment-222337 Oded Wed, 19 May 2010 19:50:03 +0000 http://geek.co.il/wp/?p=1432#comment-222337 Thanks for the comment Tom. Interesting that you had to add a spacer after the close button. I didn't have that experience - what resolution are you using? Thanks for the comment Tom.
Interesting that you had to add a spacer after the close button. I didn’t have that experience – what resolution are you using?

]]> By: Tom http://geek.co.il/wp/2010/03/07/another-mac-styled-update-for-ubuntu-window-buttons-to-the-left/comment-page-1#comment-222334 Tom Wed, 19 May 2010 17:59:41 +0000 http://geek.co.il/wp/?p=1432#comment-222334 I've tried this, but after switching to right side the "close" button disappeared. Fixed with gconf-editor. Values I used are; gconftool -s /apps/metacity/general/button_layout -t string “menu:maximize,minimize,close,spacer” Hope it helps. T. I’ve tried this, but after switching to right side the “close” button disappeared. Fixed with gconf-editor. Values I used are; gconftool -s /apps/metacity/general/button_layout -t string “menu:maximize,minimize,close,spacer”
Hope it helps.
T.

]]> By: Oded http://geek.co.il/wp/2010/03/07/another-mac-styled-update-for-ubuntu-window-buttons-to-the-left/comment-page-1#comment-221509 Oded Thu, 29 Apr 2010 05:10:21 +0000 http://geek.co.il/wp/?p=1432#comment-221509 Update: Ubuntu 10.04 will ship with an updated button layout where the button order is exactly like MacOS - close,minimize,maximize. This solves most of the problems, except that it doesn't work like MS-Windows and will feel weird for most people. Update: Ubuntu 10.04 will ship with an updated button layout where the button order is exactly like MacOS – close,minimize,maximize. This solves most of the problems, except that it doesn’t work like MS-Windows and will feel weird for most people.

]]> By: Oded http://geek.co.il/wp/2010/03/07/another-mac-styled-update-for-ubuntu-window-buttons-to-the-left/comment-page-1#comment-219475 Oded Mon, 22 Mar 2010 09:25:40 +0000 http://geek.co.il/wp/?p=1432#comment-219475 After using the new layout for a while, I do find one thing very troubling - some windows do no have all the buttons available: many modal dialogs only feature the close button while a lot of other small windows (like the burn status for Brasero or the file operations status) do not allow maximize and have only two buttons. This causes two problems - one is that the static button images are designed so that all buttons are showing - if some buttons are missing or the order is not as specified then the graphics look broken. The other, and much more serious problem is that the location of the close button - which is the most used button of all the window controls - is not in the same position when there are such differences! I think the major benefit for having the window controls on the right, and the reason that Apple puts the close button first in their left-side button layout is that this is the most used button and as such (and having such destructive power when misused) it should be always easy to hit or to avoid. And this the Ubuntu devs got completely wrong. After using the new layout for a while, I do find one thing very troubling – some windows do no have all the buttons available: many modal dialogs only feature the close button while a lot of other small windows (like the burn status for Brasero or the file operations status) do not allow maximize and have only two buttons.

This causes two problems – one is that the static button images are designed so that all buttons are showing – if some buttons are missing or the order is not as specified then the graphics look broken. The other, and much more serious problem is that the location of the close button – which is the most used button of all the window controls – is not in the same position when there are such differences!

I think the major benefit for having the window controls on the right, and the reason that Apple puts the close button first in their left-side button layout is that this is the most used button and as such (and having such destructive power when misused) it should be always easy to hit or to avoid. And this the Ubuntu devs got completely wrong.

]]> By: Oded http://geek.co.il/wp/2010/03/07/another-mac-styled-update-for-ubuntu-window-buttons-to-the-left/comment-page-1#comment-219465 Oded Sun, 21 Mar 2010 21:34:47 +0000 http://geek.co.il/wp/?p=1432#comment-219465 I think you are right, thanks for the bug report. I think you are right, thanks for the bug report.

]]> By: Ori http://geek.co.il/wp/2010/03/07/another-mac-styled-update-for-ubuntu-window-buttons-to-the-left/comment-page-1#comment-219461 Ori Sun, 21 Mar 2010 20:40:34 +0000 http://geek.co.il/wp/?p=1432#comment-219461 Switching themes doesn't revert the button order, as the button order is only a global setting. This is bad UI design. I filed a bug about changing this in Gnome: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=613522 Switching themes doesn’t revert the button order, as the button order is only a global setting. This is bad UI design.

I filed a bug about changing this in Gnome:
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=613522

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